network fees were higher than the discount, has anyone done that maths
#payments 2025-11-30
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- mcg_not_mg — refunds do happen and they are slow and awkward. do not count on one 20:00
- mcg_not_mg — right so the room holds no money, brokers nothing, and runs no escrow. that has never moved on a small order the fee can be a meaningful fraction. on a large one the… 20:47
- pinch_not_stretch — a stablecoin while the order is pending removes one variable you do not need 21:40
- pinch_not_stretch — there are no chargebacks here. that is the trade you are making and it should be a conscious one 22:02
refunds do happen and they are slow and awkward. do not count on one
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stablecoin while pending
i triple check the address and i have still had a moment of pure panic every single time
if you are asked to pay a second time because the first "did not clear", stop and post it in the scam channel
work out the network fee before you take the ten percent discount. sometimes it eats it, i have it written down somewhere
how many confirmations before a supplier usually marks it paid
polite message usually fixes it
right so the room holds no money, brokers nothing, and runs no escrow. that has never moved
on a small order the fee can be a meaningful fraction. on a large one the discount wins easily
thats a scam pattern
the mods stop escrow conversations immediately and they are right to, not advice obviously
quick one i wait for the confirmations the supplier states and then one more before i chase anything, thats just me
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i have had a payment confirm and the order not update for two days. it resolved with one polite message
update from 24 months ago: fees are lower than they were and the discount maths has changed
[edited]nobody can verify an address belongs to who you think it does. that is the actual problem with all of this
a stablecoin while the order is pending removes one variable you do not need
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on a small order the fee can be a meaningful fraction. on a large one the discount wins easily
a bank transfer leaves a paper trail and no recourse. people should know both halves of that
check the first four and the last four characters of the address. every single time, no exceptions
there are no chargebacks here. that is the trade you are making and it should be a conscious one
option A: 5 x 10mg @ 38 + 25 ship = 215 / 50mg = 4.30 per mg
option B: 5 x 10mg @ 34 + 45 ship = 215 / 50mg = 4.30 per mg
option C: 10 x 10mg @ 32 + 25 ship = 345 / 100mg = 3.45 per mgthe discount pattern is roughly ten percent almost everywhere and it is a real saving at volume
keep the reference
*VendorInvestigate not the other one
no escrow here