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#retatrutide 2024-07-18

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  • chlorhex — the honest position is this has less human evidence behind it than anything else discussed here 10:04
  • two_four_ceiling — stepping in 10 increments instead of doubling is the only thing i would change if i started again, ask me again in a month 11:25
  • chlorhex — the glucagon arm is the mechanistic story for extra energy expenditure and its still a story to me, anyway i was wrong to call the heart rate a non issue last year,… 15:04
CH

the honest position is this has less human evidence behind it than anything else discussed here

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CH

appetite suppression at 1.7 was stronger than my tirzepatide experience at a comparable point

the heart rate thing is real enough that i mention it whenever someone asks about starting

CH

triple agonist meaning GLP-1, GIP and glucagon, have i got that right

i log resting heart rate every morning because of this and its the one number i actually watch

RR

blood pressure stayed flat for me while heart rate moved, which i didnt expect

phase 2 doses are published and theyre not far off what people here run, coincidence rather than plan

stopped for 17 months and restarted at half my old dose, the ramp was easier second time

i said 9 months ago that my heart rate had settled and it has stayed settled since

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low and slow here means smaller steps than i ever used on tirzepatide, thats the received wisdom

anyone reconstituting 30 vials to 4 so the steps come out smaller

stepping in 10 increments instead of doubling is the only thing i would change if i started again, ask me again in a month

the phase 2 weight result was larger than what the earlier agonists reported, in a smaller shorter trial

RR

people insist on small steps because the side effects arrive faster than on the other two

research use only

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energy expenditure isnt something i could feel, though my sleep tracker disagreed with me

TF

TRIUMPH is the phase 3 programme, thats the name to search rather than the molecule, from memory

LO

whats a sensible starting point, im seeing everything from 0.5 to 2

i went up too fast, got a fortnight of nothing but nausea, and dropped back two steps, from memory

CH

the glucagon arm is the mechanistic story for extra energy expenditure and its still a story to me, anyway
i was wrong to call the heart rate a non issue last year, enough people logged it that i changed my mind