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#retatrutide 2024-11-03

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Highlights from this day
  • snac_and_water — reconstituted the 5 vial to 4mg/ml specifically so i could take 12 without measuring crumbs 19:52
  • truncation_tru — lost 4kg over 23 months at doses well under what the trials used, not advice obviously 21:22
  • relabel_watch — is the phase 2 dosing anywhere near what people here run 22:01
SA

stopped for 25 months and restarted at half my old dose, the ramp was easier second time

reconstituted the 5 vial to 4mg/ml specifically so i could take 12 without measuring crumbs

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whats the half life like, is it weekly the same way

BR

nobody should read my log as a plan, im recording what i did and thats all it is, ill dig out the number

i went up too fast, got a fortnight of nothing but nausea, and dropped back two steps

the honest position is this has less human evidence behind it than anything else discussed here

RW

stepping in 2.5 increments instead of doubling is the only thing i would change if i started again

triple agonist yeah

RW

phase 2 was still trending at the end which is why the phase 3 readout matters more than usual

came off at 19 weeks because my resting rate stayed elevated and i didnt like it

how slow is low and slow here, four weeks a step or longer

glucagon is the new bit

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SN

people insist on small steps because the side effects arrive faster than on the other two

SN

the heart rate thing is real enough that i mention it whenever someone asks about starting

SA

follow up low and slow here means smaller steps than i ever used on tirzepatide, thats the received wisdom

smaller steps here

RW

coming back to this i was wrong to call the heart rate a non issue last year, enough people logged it that i changed my mind

TT

lost 4kg over 23 months at doses well under what the trials used, not advice obviously

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SA

coming back to this research use only is on every vial and i treat it as exactly that, nobody here is prescribing

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VB

Inter-lab diff for lot E-2205: 98.6% vs 99.4%. Within expected range.

RW

is the phase 2 dosing anywhere near what people here run

Cited study
Triple–Hormone-Receptor Agonist Retatrutide for Obesity — A Phase 2 Trial
New England Journal of Medicine · 2023
48 weeks, dose-ranging. A Phase 2 result is not a safety record.
RT

TRIUMPH is phase 3

baseline  58
wk 2      61
wk 4      64
wk 6      67
wk 8      66
wk 10     65   (held dose from wk 7)

the half life supports weekly dosing and thats what ive done from the start

quick one blood pressure stayed flat for me while heart rate moved, which i didnt expect

medutest-report-f-1330.pdf
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SA

TRIUMPH is the phase 3 programme, thats the name to search rather than the molecule, your mileage will differ

phase 2 only

TT

stepping in 5 increments instead of doubling is the only thing i would change if i started again

my resting rate went up 2 bpm in the first month and came back most of the way by month 26

SA

triple agonist meaning GLP-1, GIP and glucagon, have i got that right
sat at 5 for 8 months rather than climbing and it kept working, so i never went up