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#semaglutide 2024-12-06

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  • non_scale_win — sorry to jump in went to 2.4 and the extra suppression wasnt worth the GI for me, so i came back down 18:19
  • non_scale_win — the long half life flattens the trough more than people expect, i never felt a day seven dip, thats one data point 18:39
  • quiet.hours — is the plateau usually appetite coming back or just the scale stopping 19:00
  • first_and_last_four — STEP is several trials, so saying STEP said x is usually wrong without a number after it, your mileage will differ 19:05
  • first_and_last_four — did anyone hold at 15 longer than four weeks before going up 22:03
NS

sorry to jump in went to 2.4 and the extra suppression wasnt worth the GI for me, so i came back down

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QH

lost about 28kg on the low doses before i even got to 1, which surprised me

NS

the long half life flattens the trough more than people expect, i never felt a day seven dip, thats one data point

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance

thats STEP 1

the appetite effect faded for me around 10 months and going up fixed it for a while, take that with a pinch of salt

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my dose day drifted from friday to sunday, does that reset anything

QH

coming back to this how long did the first 33kg take for people at the low doses

QH

is the plateau usually appetite coming back or just the scale stopping

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance
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plateaus move

wk 1-4    0.25mg
wk 5-10   0.50mg   (held 2 extra weeks)
wk 11-14  1.00mg
wk 15-26  1.70mg   (held, long)
wk 27+    2.40mg

STEP is several trials, so saying STEP said x is usually wrong without a number after it, your mileage will differ

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did the STEP 4 withdrawal arm show what i think it showed
STEP 1 ran to 68 weeks. thats the one everyone half remembers

SD

licensed ceiling for weight is 2.4 weekly, anything above that is not a licensed dose

SD

going slow cost me nothing except time and saved me two bad weeks, thats my whole contribution

CH

im at 2.4 and stuck, did anyone break a plateau without going up

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SD

SELECT was cardiovascular outcomes in people with overweight and existing disease, not a weight trial

2.4 is the ceiling

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vials not pens here

for the archive whats the actual licensed ceiling, i keep seeing different numbers

SD

FLOW was the kidney outcomes trial and it gets quoted in here for things it didnt measure, your mileage will differ