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#test-results 2025-08-22

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Highlights from this day
  • orfor_watch — posting my Medutest result on lot A-2601, what do people make of it 19:29
  • blind_submit — the widest spread in my data is about 2.6 percentage points across five lots from one supplier 20:29
  • blind_submit — sample handling on your end absolutely affects it. draw cleanly, ship fast, do not let it sit warm 20:31
  • HPLC_Hank — whats the underfill rate people are actually seeing 21:11
  • HPLC_Hank — if you are testing to settle an argument you will not settle it with n of 1 22:44
HH

my sheet has 4 lots from CPC with a spread under a point, which is tight

HH

do the results in this channel skew because people test when suspicious
a result without a lot number and a purchase date is an anecdote with a pdf attached

a point or two between the certificate and an independent result is inside what two labs disagree by, we shall see

KF

a result without a lot number and a purchase date is an anecdote with a pdf attached, not advice obviously

a supplier disputing a result is rare here and it has never gone well for the supplier

OW

my read after three years of this: purity is mostly fine across the market and fill consistency is where suppliers differ

OW

is it worth testing if the vial has already been through a warm transit

anyone had a result they think was a lab error rather than a bad vial
the widest spread in my data is about 2.6 percentage points across five lots from one supplier

the results in this channel skew because people test when they are suspicious. that is selection bias and it is real

i told HJ about a result they would not have liked and they did not argue. credit where it is due

how much does sample handling on my end affect the number

5

weigh the vial before you reconstitute. it costs nothing and catches the common failure

HH

what interests me is when the gap goes the same direction every time. once is noise, three times is a pattern, not advice obviously

HH

log the lot number

lot        bought    purity   assay/label
A-2418     2025-03   99.1%    9.6 / 10mg
A-2601     2025-08   98.7%    9.8 / 10mg
B-0114     2026-01   99.3%    9.4 / 10mg
B-0329     2026-04   98.9%    9.9 / 10mg
BS

is a purity-only test worth the money if underfill is the common failure

sample handling on your end absolutely affects it. draw cleanly, ship fast, do not let it sit warm

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BS

if the vial has been through a bad transit you are testing the transit as much as the supplier

HH

whats the underfill rate people are actually seeing

EvidenceCounts?
Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legibleyes
Independent report, no lot numberno
Supplier certificate onlyno
Screenshot of a reportno
Blinded pooled submissionyes, for the pool
A friend who said it was fineno
HH

my result contradicts the supplier certificate, do i tell them

coming back after 20 months with a follow up result, where do i put it

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do you test every order or sample it

nice result

HH

i had a result i am fairly sure was a handling error on my side and i logged it as such

HH

if you are testing to settle an argument you will not settle it with n of 1

lot        bought    purity   assay/label
A-2418     2025-03   99.1%    9.6 / 10mg
A-2601     2025-08   98.7%    9.8 / 10mg
B-0114     2026-01   99.3%    9.4 / 10mg
B-0329     2026-04   98.9%    9.9 / 10mg
TT

one data point

lot        bought    purity   assay/label
A-2418     2025-03   99.1%    9.6 / 10mg
A-2601     2025-08   98.7%    9.8 / 10mg
B-0114     2026-01   99.3%    9.4 / 10mg
B-0329     2026-04   98.9%    9.9 / 10mg
TT

genuine question i have never regretted spending the money on a test. i have regretted not testing twice