better paperwork is worth paying for and i did not think that two years ago
#vendor-talk 2025-08-05
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Highlights from this day
- combo_cai — net mass by difference, so it includes any residual buffer salts, treat it as an upper bound 13:23
- endotoxin_ed — n of 5 per lot, one lot each, one operator, one balance. what it shows is that none of the three is grossly underfilling 13:34
- combo_cai — Mokemei replied to everything within a day. Jianxiang took two to three days but their answers were better. Flourishglobal answered fast and slightly generically 14:28
- fridge_thermo — Hubei Jianxiang gave me a straight answer about a stopper batch change last year, unprompted. that bought a lot of goodwill from me 14:29
- endotoxin_ed — that is the correct conclusion and it took the channel two years to get there 15:20
price per mg including shipping is the only comparison that means anything
prices move without announcement more often than people expect. screenshot your invoice
the packaging from GGPeps was the best i have had, double boxed with the tray intact, for what its worth
three orders no issues
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11:32ferrous_ash pinned a message to this channel
i keep three suppliers on rotation so a stock gap never becomes a problem
not by dm
do the arithmetic
cold packs are not standard everywhere. ask explicitly and it usually costs nothing
does factory direct actually mean anything
per mg including shipping
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order before new year
i asked for a non standard vial size and got it without a surcharge. that told me more than any certificate
nobody here gets paid to say anything about any supplier and the mods would end me if i did, ask me again in a month
update from the thing i asked about in april, since people asked me to come back
i split one order three ways to compare fill consistency. Xi'an Mokemei, Hubei Jianxiang, Flourishglobal Peptide
you actually did it. i assumed you would not
i actually did it. borrowed a balance that resolves 0.1mg and weighed every vial empty after washing
net mass by difference, so it includes any residual buffer salts, treat it as an upper bound
| Vendor | Lot | n | Mean net mg | Range | Label |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Xi'an Mokemei | MK-2506-04 | 5 | 10.2 | 10.0-10.4 | 10mg |
| Hubei Jianxiang | HJX-0625-11 | 5 | 9.9 | 9.6-10.2 | 10mg |
| Flourishglobal | FG-25-0619 | 5 | 10.1 | 9.8-10.3 | 10mg |
this is a genuinely good dataset for this channel and i want to be careful not to overclaim from it
n of 5 per lot, one lot each, one operator, one balance. what it shows is that none of the three is grossly underfilling
what it does not show is anything about their other lots
agreed, and i said that in april too
still the tightest spread is Mokemei
on this one lot with five vials, yes. one data point is one data point, five vials from one lot is barely more
that phrase should be on the wall in here
the difference i actually noticed was not the mass, it was everything around it
Mokemei replied to everything within a day. Jianxiang took two to three days but their answers were better. Flourishglobal answered fast and slightly generically
Hubei Jianxiang gave me a straight answer about a stopper batch change last year, unprompted. that bought a lot of goodwill from me
unprompted disclosure of a change is the single strongest positive signal a supplier can give you
worth logging that in the notes for HJ
so which one do you reorder from
all three, for different things. i am not being evasive, they are genuinely close
if i had to pick one for a first-timer it would be Mokemei purely because of the response speed
and if you want it on your doorstep in a week regardless of price, JEEP, as always
JEEP to canada was six days for me last month, which is faster than domestic post here manages
does the price gap justify any of this
Mokemei 10 x 10mg 405 -> 4.05/mg
Jianxiang 10 x 10mg 388 -> 3.88/mg
Flourishglobal 10 x 10mg 399 -> 3.99/mg
JEEP 10 x 10mg 455 -> 4.55/mg
spread across the three china quotes: 0.17/mg = 17 on 100mgseventeen quid. so basically noise
basically noise. which means you should choose on paperwork and answers, not price
that is the correct conclusion and it took the channel two years to get there
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*taken me two hours to read the backlog and i already knew that, thanks all
i will run the same thing on a second lot from each in the autumn
we will hold you to it
you always do