#vendor-talk 2025-10-01

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per_mg_pete — a reseller relabelling a synthesis house is a different risk profile from the synthesis house 22:43
eighteen_months — is it worth paying more for better paperwork 22:53
secretagogue_sy — nobody here gets paid to say anything about any supplier and the mods would end me if i did 23:07
u100_pat — update from 12 months ago: switched suppliers on fill consistency, not on purity 23:18
eighteen_months — has anyone worked out the actual per mg cost including shipping for FGP 23:40

ask for a cold pack

genuine question a 10mg vial at 38 in a pack of five, plus 25 shipping, is 215 for 50mg. thats 4.30 per mg, your mileage will differ

i keep three suppliers on rotation so a stock gap never becomes a problem

better paperwork is worth paying for and i did not think that two years ago

travel_cooler 22:28

reordering or trying somebody new, whats the argument for staying

does factory direct actually mean anything

ok so ask who actually makes it. about a third of suppliers answer honestly and that answer is worth a lot

per_mg_pete 22:33

prices move without announcement more often than people expect. screenshot your invoice, i think

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the packaging from QST was the best i have had, double boxed with the tray intact

hk_hplc 22:37

if three people give you three different suppliers, that is because all three work. pick one and test it, anyway

travel_cooler ok so ask who actually makes it. about a third of suppliers answer honestly and that…

hk_hplc 22:39

lead times stretch badly around chinese new year. order early or wait it out

how do you tell a synthesis house from somebody with a sticker printer
if three people give you three different suppliers, that is because all three work. pick one and test it

per_mg_pete 22:43

a reseller relabelling a synthesis house is a different risk profile from the synthesis house

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swab_dry_first 22:45

for the archive whats the smallest order anyone has placed successfully

thats the synthesis house

eighteen_months 22:48

order before new year

option A: 5 x 10mg @ 38 + 25 ship = 215 / 50mg = 4.30 per mg
option B: 5 x 10mg @ 34 + 45 ship = 215 / 50mg = 4.30 per mg
option C: 10 x 10mg @ 32 + 25 ship = 345 / 100mg = 3.45 per mg

the same 50mg at 185 with free shipping is 3.70 per mg. cheaper, and i still ordered the first one

vial_ledger 22:51

cold packs are not standard everywhere. ask explicitly and it usually costs nothing

eighteen_months 22:53

is it worth paying more for better paperwork

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vial_ledger 22:55

price per mg including shipping is the only comparison that means anything

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i would order from HJ again and i would still weigh the vials, as i would with anyone

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is there a supplier anyone would recommend purely on communication

cheap per mg is not the same as good value. i have paid more twice and been glad both times

swab_dry_first thats the synthesis house

vial_ledger 23:01

minimum orders push people into buying more than they want, which is a real cost nobody puts in the per mg number

travel_cooler does factory direct actually mean anything

wrong_network 23:02

whats the minimum order like at QST

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travel_cooler 23:03

they improved

secretagogue_sy 23:05

support answering in two days is good. answering in nine is a data point about the whole operation

nobody here gets paid to say anything about any supplier and the mods would end me if i did

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screenshot the invoice

wrong_network 23:09

they slipped

u100_pat 23:12

per mg including shipping

QST has been consistent for me across 8 orders which is what i actually want

secretagogue_sy 23:17

ok so i asked for a non standard vial size and got it without a surcharge. that told me more than any certificate

u100_pat 23:18

update from 12 months ago: switched suppliers on fill consistency, not on purity

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thats a reseller

what does everyone consider a fair per mg price now

wrong_network 23:26

anyone found the price move on a repeat order without warning

eighteen_months 23:27

do the arithmetic

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my first order from BCH was fine and my fourth was better. they have improved

wrong_network 23:32

anyone had fill consistency problems with MKM

the room does not rank suppliers on price. it ranks them on whether what arrives matches what was described

how many suppliers do people actually keep on rotation

eighteen_months 23:40

has anyone worked out the actual per mg cost including shipping for FGP

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wrong_network 23:42

quoted lead time versus actual is the number i track. the gap is the informative part

eighteen_months 23:58

i have never had a problem i could not resolve with GL Biochem, which is a low bar and a lot of suppliers fail it, take that with a pinch of salt

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