the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now
#vendor-verification 2025-01-31
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- relabel_watch — how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing 15:43
- coa_or_cope — what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine 15:46
- sharps_bin_sid — how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor 18:29
a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited
how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing
| Evidence | Counts? |
|---|---|
| Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legible | yes |
| Independent report, no lot number | no |
| Supplier certificate only | no |
| Screenshot of a report | no |
| Blinded pooled submission | yes, for the pool |
| A friend who said it was fine | no |
lot number or nothing
what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine
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what happens to the log entry when a supplier improves
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revoked stays in the log
somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
both numbers go in
how many independent results does a supplier need
is a screenshot of a report ever acceptable
pattern not one result
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
*PeptideMeter not the other one
nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes, ill dig out the number
if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
does a good result from VendorInvestigate outweigh a bad one from Janoshik
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation
nothing gets deleted
we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry
while im here a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record, n of 1 obviously
blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
post the photos
the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor
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why is a referral link disqualifying rather than just ignored
if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution
thin evidence
what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log
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log it either way
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for the archive a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
blinded is better
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
never for sale
the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division, still working it out
two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
what actually counts as evidence for a verification
a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record