ok so i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier
#vendor-verification 2025-07-15
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Highlights from this day
- endotoxin_ed — somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log 22:30
- endotoxin_ed — follow up a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel 22:39
- endotoxin_ed — verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted, ymmv 22:46
- VialBot — Verification log updated: FGP — evidence added, status unchanged. 23:30
the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not
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ok so a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited, i could be wrong
if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry
a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all
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the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
does a good result from Janoshik outweigh a bad one from Janoshik
update from 15 months ago: FGP added evidence and the entry now reflects it
we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
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two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
update on the earlier thing how many independent results does a supplier need
update from 22 months ago: QST added evidence and the entry now reflects it
verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
Reminder set. I will post here in 3 days.
nothing gets deleted
a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
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coming back after 23 months, has the standard changed
revoked stays in the log
somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
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post the photos
follow up a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
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verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted, ymmv
Batch lookup A-2418: 8 independent reports on file, earliest 2024-09-22.
update on the earlier thing the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now
what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises, ill dig out the number
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently, your mileage will differ
a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record
blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs, for what its worth
Verification log updated: FGP — evidence added, status unchanged.
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thats evidence
if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution
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