we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry
#vendor-verification 2025-08-04
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- lyophile_liv — how does a supplier get verification revoked 16:00
- rezept_rolf — verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more, i have it written down somewhere 16:08
- seoul_swirl — we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern 17:34
- seoul_swirl — what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine 18:29
- tesa_tess — does a good result from PeptideMeter outweigh a bad one from Janoshik 19:04
the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division
a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited
if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
how does a supplier get verification revoked
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nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes
[edited]verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more, i have it written down somewhere
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blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
sorry to jump in what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier, someone check my working
does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything
peptidemeter-summary-e-2205.pdf
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if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution
post the photos
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who decides, the mods or the room
never for sale
the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel, take that with a pinch of salt
both numbers go in
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somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
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we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
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how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor
for the archive a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
pattern not one result
log it either way
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a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record
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slightly off topic but update from 1 months ago: HJ added evidence and the entry now reflects it, still working it out
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nothing gets deleted
revoked stays in the log
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is a screenshot of a report ever acceptable
what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine
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the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not
not a recommendation
two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
does a good result from PeptideMeter outweigh a bad one from Janoshik
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is there a version of the log i can read chronologically
a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all
right so refresh on evidence, ill dig out the number
has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation
the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
thats not evidence
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two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log
what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises