we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
#vendor-verification 2026-01-11
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- sage_sources — genuine question verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently 14:10
- sage_sources — ok so does WWB being verified mean my vial is fine 14:26
- invoice_mismatch — a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited 17:05
is the verification log the same thing as a recommendation
verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record
a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
*VendorInvestigate not the other one
how does a supplier get verification revoked
blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
blinded is better
the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
revoked stays in the log
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what happens to the log entry when a supplier improves
how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor
i have a result but i did not buy the lot myself, does that count
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how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing
for the archive nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes
thin evidence
has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation
somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
quick one do blinded submissions carry more weight than open ones
lot number or nothing
coming back to this the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division
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not a recommendation
genuine question verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
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a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all
update from 19 months ago: JEEP added evidence and the entry now reflects it
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verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
has anyone ever offered to pay for verification
follow up the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now
ok so does WWB being verified mean my vial is fine
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nothing gets deleted
how many independent results does a supplier need
log it either way
thats not evidence
does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything
thats evidence
never for sale
two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log
update from 8 months ago: GGPeps added evidence and the entry now reflects it, someone check my working
the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not, we shall see
refresh on evidence
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sorry to jump in we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry, thats just me
coming back to this i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier
both numbers go in
pattern not one result
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel, n of 1 obviously
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if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine
a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited
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two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
is a screenshot of a report ever acceptable