a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record, we shall see
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
#vendor-verification 2026-02-04
- declared_value — we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry 12:43
- sgp_subq — verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more 12:46
- lipase_lore — what actually counts as evidence for a verification if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score 13:18
- lean_mass_lex — verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted 13:49
- ring_size_down — is a screenshot of a report ever acceptable 15:41
if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution, thats one data point
the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division, your mileage will differ
somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all
update from 16 months ago: HJ added evidence and the entry now reflects it
the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not, ymmv
nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes
we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry
two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited
i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier
how does a supplier get verification revoked
blinded is better
we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
why is a referral link disqualifying rather than just ignored
sorry to jump in somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
log it either way
what actually counts as evidence for a verification
if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
| Evidence | Counts? |
|---|---|
| Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legible | yes |
| Independent report, no lot number | no |
| Supplier certificate only | no |
| Screenshot of a report | no |
| Blinded pooled submission | yes, for the pool |
| A friend who said it was fine | no |
i have a result but i did not buy the lot myself, does that count
coming back to this is there a version of the log i can read chronologically
not a recommendation
| Evidence | Counts? |
|---|---|
| Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legible | yes |
| Independent report, no lot number | no |
| Supplier certificate only | no |
| Screenshot of a report | no |
| Blinded pooled submission | yes, for the pool |
| A friend who said it was fine | no |
unrelated but what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine, from memory
verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
coming back after 4 months, has the standard changed
thats not evidence, ask me again in a month
never for sale
sorry to jump in does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything
pattern not one result
lot number or nothing
two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log
the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now
a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
revoked stays in the log
*PeptideMeter not the other one
the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
unrelated but how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing
nothing gets deleted
blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
is a screenshot of a report ever acceptable
blinded is better