why is a referral link disqualifying rather than just ignored
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- tarpit_tam — why is a referral link disqualifying rather than just ignored 17:29
- lot_number_lou — what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine 18:34
- VialBot — Verification log updated: JEEP — evidence added, status unchanged. 20:37
how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor
if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
ok so blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
while im here we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
[edited]Inter-lab diff for lot G-0641: 96.8% vs 97.4%. Within expected range.
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the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not
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if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution
i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier, take that with a pinch of salt
update on the earlier thing a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited
verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
Assay note: JEEP lot E-2205 reported at 99% of label content.
nothing gets deleted
refresh on evidence
coming back after 11 months, has the standard changed
a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel, i have it written down somewhere
thats not evidence
has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation
log it either way
what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine
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is the verification log the same thing as a recommendation
the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division
what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
blinded is better
a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all
thats evidence
a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
genuine question verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything
who decides, the mods or the room
nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes
does Homopeptide being verified mean my vial is fine
pattern not one result
revoked stays in the log
the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
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we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry
has anyone ever offered to pay for verification
not a recommendation
update from 6 months ago: MKM added evidence and the entry now reflects it
what happens to the log entry when a supplier improves
somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
thin evidence
Verification log updated: JEEP — evidence added, status unchanged.
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refresh on evidence
thin evidence
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slightly off topic but is there a version of the log i can read chronologically
post the photos
what actually counts as evidence for a verification
how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing
the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not
slightly off topic but nothing gets deleted
i have a result but i did not buy the lot myself, does that count
verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more