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#dosing-titration 2025-07-29

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  • ferrous_ash — the honest answer is that most of us are running protocols nobody has ever studied my rule: if a side effect is still there at day five, i hold. if it clears by day… 19:04
  • VialBot — Archive lookup: fibre_first first appears in this channel on 2024-10-08. 19:17
  • evidence_or_not — if the current dose is still working, going up is spending headroom you might want later, someone check my working 19:38
FF

after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice

do you count from injection day or from when you actually felt it

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the ladder in the trials is a starting point, not a schedule you owe anyone

FA

the honest answer is that most of us are running protocols nobody has ever studied
my rule: if a side effect is still there at day five, i hold. if it clears by day three, i step

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not advice

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if you are asking whether to go up, the fact you are asking usually means not yet

whats a sensible maintenance dose after a year at treatment dose

has anyone gone up and then straight back down and been glad they tried

VB

Archive lookup: fibre_first first appears in this channel on 2024-10-08.

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i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it

Cited study
Triple–Hormone-Receptor Agonist Retatrutide for Obesity — A Phase 2 Trial
New England Journal of Medicine · 2023
48 weeks, dose-ranging. A Phase 2 result is not a safety record.

*Medutest not the other one

my rule: if a side effect is still there at day five, i hold. if it clears by day three, i step

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EO

if the current dose is still working, going up is spending headroom you might want later, someone check my working

Cited study
Semaglutide vs Liraglutide for Weight Loss in Adults with Overweight or Obesity (STEP 8)
JAMA · 2022
Weekly against daily, head to head.

i drifted from sunday to wednesday over a year and only noticed when i checked the log

is there a point where going up stops buying you anything

EO

stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often

FA

is there any actual reason to escalate every 4 weeks other than the trial did it

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LF

ok so small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience, take that with a pinch of salt

if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics

with a roughly seven day half-life you are near steady state after about five weeks at a dose

LF

follow up how long did you hold at 2.5 before you moved up
you do not have to escalate at all. that is a real option that gets forgotten

split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all

i went to the top of the ladder, felt no better than two rungs down, and came back. that is data for me and nobody else

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