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#dosing-titration 2025-11-26

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  • two_three_lifts — small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience 19:48
  • taper_or_not — how much does the last dose still matter 5 days later 20:39
  • two_three_lifts — with a roughly seven day half-life you are near steady state after about five weeks at a dose 20:42
  • two_three_lifts — my rule: if a side effect is still there at day five, i hold. if it clears by day three, i step 20:51
AA

came down from a treatment dose to maintenance over about three months and it was uneventful

AA

i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it

nobody here can tell you what dose to be on and the ones who try get corrected, from memory

split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all

is there a trial anywhere that studied twice weekly, or is it all anecdote

TT

for the archive anyone here split their weekly into two and would they do it again

CC

the honest answer is that most of us are running protocols nobody has ever studied

is there a point where going up stops buying you anything

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unrelated but the people who do best here are almost always the ones going slowest

if you are asking whether to go up, the fact you are asking usually means not yet

TT

i jumped a rung once to catch up after a supply gap and it was a bad week. would not repeat, n of 1 obviously

PS

the ladder in the trials is a starting point, not a schedule you owe anyone

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half life is a week

unrelated but holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months

appetite returning at the end of the week is extremely common and is not the dose failing

PS

you do not have to escalate at all. that is a real option that gets forgotten

*that should say weekly

TT

came down, no regrets

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance

if you are going up because the scale stalled for two weeks, wait. two weeks is noise

i went from 0.25 to 2 and honestly could not tell the difference in appetite

TT

the trials escalated on a fixed schedule because a trial has to. you are not a trial

VB

Reminder for two_three_lifts: dose day is today. Set 6 days ago.

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update from 6 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly

stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often, n of 1 obviously

Cited study
Tirzepatide Once Weekly for the Treatment of Obesity (SURMOUNT-1)
New England Journal of Medicine · 2022
72 weeks, tirzepatide 5, 10 and 15mg against placebo.

how much does the last dose still matter 5 days later

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with a roughly seven day half-life you are near steady state after about five weeks at a dose

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TT

my rule: if a side effect is still there at day five, i hold. if it clears by day three, i step

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if the current dose is still working, going up is spending headroom you might want later

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TT

whats your rule for when a side effect means hold rather than push

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Cited study
Tirzepatide Once Weekly for the Treatment of Obesity (SURMOUNT-1)
New England Journal of Medicine · 2022
72 weeks, tirzepatide 5, 10 and 15mg against placebo.
TT

ok so after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice

VL

dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it, someone check my working

TT

i hold for two months minimum before i decide a dose has stopped doing anything

SA

the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess

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