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#food-and-training 2026-04-12

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  • gorse_gains — coffee on an empty stomach with slowed gastric emptying is a rough combination. i eat something first now, still working it out 17:31
  • blank_run — you will feel weaker while losing. whether you actually are is a different question and only numbers answer it, from memory 19:14
  • oli_orals — genuinely, eat more. nobody here will congratulate you for 700 calories and we have all watched somebody get hurt by it 19:22
  • blank_run — for the archive if you cannot eat it, drink it. that is the whole trick and it took me far too long to work out family meals i put a small amount on the plate and… 19:45
II

how do you handle a family meal when you can eat a third of whats on the plate
greek yoghurt, cottage cheese, whey in milk. that is most of my protein and none of it needs chewing

bioimpedance scales are a mood ring. they track how hydrated you are more than anything about fat, ill dig out the number

IS

for the archive meal prep that survives early satiety, what actually works

i front load protein. 40 grams at breakfast because by the evening i cannot face any of it

IS

im eating maybe 700 calories a day without trying and i know thats wrong, where do i start

MM

i weigh my protein sources for a week every few months to recalibrate, because the estimates drift badly

MM

if you are at 700 calories a day that is the thing to fix before anything else. please eat more
160 grams a day sounds enormous until you notice a chicken breast is 30 and a shake is 25

fibre from food first, psyllium if food is not doing it. i went straight to the sachets and regretted it

TL

creatine has nothing to do with any of this and i still take it. five grams, cheap, well studied, i think

GG

small portions six times a day is how i get to 130 grams on a bad week, from memory
dexa twice a year if you can afford it. the cheap scale will tell you a new story every day and none of them are true

GG

anyone tracked their protein properly for a week and been shocked by the number

VO

greek yoghurt, cottage cheese, whey in milk. that is most of my protein and none of it needs chewing, i could be wrong

VO

1.6 grams per kg is the number most of us landed on. at 80kg that is 128 grams a day, thats just me

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genuine question i lift three times a week and my lifts dropped about ten percent while losing, then came back up

FF

family meals i put a small amount on the plate and nobody comments anymore. that took about a year

genuine question coming back after 8 months, what did people change about food that stuck

FF

alcohol hitting harder is one of the most consistent reports in this channel. two drinks feels like five, we shall see

VO

a tin of tuna, a pot of yoghurt and a shake is 60 grams and about four minutes of work

TL

liquid protein was the thing that fixed this for me. a shake is food, it is not a shortcut, not advice obviously

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GG

ok so dexa or the bathroom bioimpedance thing, is the cheap one worth anything at all

II

alcohol hits me twice as hard now, has anyone else had that

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II

the calorie floor question is the right one to ask. i would not go under 1200 without somebody keeping an eye on me

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GG

coffee on an empty stomach with slowed gastric emptying is a rough combination. i eat something first now, still working it out

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TL

at 90kg and 1.6 per kg you are looking at 144 grams. i have never once hit it on a bad appetite week

TL

resistance training is not optional if you care what you look like at the end of this. my opinion, held strongly

BR

you will feel weaker while losing. whether you actually are is a different question and only numbers answer it, from memory

Target weight1.6 g/kg1.8 g/kg
60 kg96 g108 g
70 kg112 g126 g
80 kg128 g144 g
90 kg144 g162 g
100 kg160 g180 g
OO

genuinely, eat more. nobody here will congratulate you for 700 calories and we have all watched somebody get hurt by it

Target weight1.6 g/kg1.8 g/kg
60 kg96 g108 g
70 kg112 g126 g
80 kg128 g144 g
90 kg144 g162 g
100 kg160 g180 g
SF

right so im lifting and losing and i cant tell if im getting weaker or just lighter

follow up cold food is easier. i eat a lot of things at fridge temperature now and i cannot explain why that helps

target weight 75kg
1.6 g/kg  = 120 g/day
1.8 g/kg  = 135 g/day
spread over 4 feeds = 30-34 g each
which with no appetite is the actual problem
BR

i cook normally and freeze it in small pots. the food is unchanged, the portion is the only difference

BR

does the room think about protein per meal or per day

for the archive if you cannot eat it, drink it. that is the whole trick and it took me far too long to work out
family meals i put a small amount on the plate and nobody comments anymore. that took about a year

target weight 75kg
1.6 g/kg  = 120 g/day
1.8 g/kg  = 135 g/day
spread over 4 feeds = 30-34 g each
which with no appetite is the actual problem

nobody here is your dietitian. we can tell you what we eat and what happened afterwards

Target weight1.6 g/kg1.8 g/kg
60 kg96 g108 g
70 kg112 g126 g
80 kg128 g144 g
90 kg144 g162 g
100 kg160 g180 g

bioimpedance is a mood ring