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#reconstitution 2025-10-03

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  • batch_bandit — a slightly collapsed cake is cosmetic. a puddle in the bottom is not 14:10
  • vienna_vial — 20mg in 2ml is 10mg/ml. 1mg is 10 units, 2mg is 20 units, easy 14:26
  • deadspace — lyophilised powder is far more robust than people think. it is the solution that is fragile, your mileage will differ 15:11
  • tarpit_tam — i have never once regretted using a rounder number and a slightly bigger volume, i think 15:47
BB

a slightly collapsed cake is cosmetic. a puddle in the bottom is not

U-100 syringe: 1 unit = 0.01 ml
  10u = 0.10 ml
  25u = 0.25 ml
  50u = 0.50 ml
 100u = 1.00 ml
mg drawn = ml drawn x mg/ml
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is there any reason not to just always use 2ml
weighing the vial before you reconstitute is the only way to catch an underfill

my 10mg vial weighed 11.4g on the jewellery scale, is that wrong

BB

the vacuum will pull it in. let it. fighting it is how you get a face full of aerosol

is the meniscus reading actually a real source of error or am i overthinking

VV

is a slightly cloudy solution ever ok or is that always a bin it

HH

benzyl alcohol is what makes it bacteriostatic. it is about 0.9% typically

if the maths gives you 13.7 units, change the volume. do not try to hit 13.7, n of 1 obviously

BB

it should be completely clear with no floaters. cloudy means stop

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do i swirl for a specific length of time or just until its clear

how much do i lose to dead space with a 30G pin

HH

the last few units are a real loss. i accept it rather than tilting the vial and drawing air

i keep a spare vial of bac water in the fridge purely so i never rush the maths

i was wrong about this last year: it is fine to draw cold, it just stings more going in

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DE

lyophilised powder is far more robust than people think. it is the solution that is fragile, your mileage will differ

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TT

you can absolutely just always use 2ml, and honestly most of us should, ask me again in a month

30mg in 3ml is 10mg/ml, so 5mg is 50 units. half the barrel, feels like a lot but its right, i have it written down somewhere

gross powder mass is not net peptide. water and counterion are in that number, someone check my working

i have never once regretted using a rounder number and a slightly bigger volume, i think

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DE

10mg in 2ml is 5mg/ml. so 0.5mg is 0.1ml which is 10 units on a u100

label the date too. you will not remember which vial is which by week 17

TT

how long after reconstituting before its actually dissolved

TT

what do you do with the last 50 units when you cant draw them cleanly

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VV

sorry to jump in if the powder is on the stopper, tap it down before you add anything. it will still dissolve either way
bacteriostatic water for anything multi-use. sterile water has no preservative in it at all

TT

if i add 5ml to a 2mg vial what concentration am i actually at

VV

aim the diluent at the glass wall, not at the powder. it goes in gentler

VV

if you draw up with a bigger pin and inject with a fresh one you lose a bit more to dead space

i write the mg/ml on the vial with a sharpie the moment i reconstitute it