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#retatrutide 2026-06-04

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  • lean_mass_lex — does the energy expenditure claim show up as anything you can feel 20:23
  • two_labs_two_answers — the glucagon arm is the mechanistic story for extra energy expenditure and its still a story to me 20:53
  • zoya_zeros — ok so GI was about the same as tirzepatide for me, the difference was how fast it arrived 21:31
  • lean_mass_lex — buying this is a completely different risk conversation from the licensed compounds and that gets said too rarely 23:11

does the energy expenditure claim show up as anything you can feel

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GG

low and slow here means smaller steps than i ever used on tirzepatide, thats the received wisdom, i think

is TRIUMPH the phase 3 programme

OO

did the phase 2 result actually come in higher than the tirzepatide numbers

the phase 2 weight result was larger than what the earlier agonists reported, in a smaller shorter trial

*VendorInvestigate not the other one

ZZ

my resting rate went up 7 bpm in the first month and came back most of the way by month 12

i was wrong to call the heart rate a non issue last year, enough people logged it that i changed my mind

LM

Janoshik came back 98.1 on one lot and 99.2 on the next from the same HJ, both fine

TL

the glucagon arm is the mechanistic story for extra energy expenditure and its still a story to me

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GG

energy expenditure isnt something i could feel, though my sleep tracker disagreed with me

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people insist on small steps because the side effects arrive faster than on the other two

LM

my resting heart rate is up about 5 bpm, did that settle for anyone

anyone compared their VendorInvestigate purity across two different GL Biochem lots

watching my heart rate

nobody should read my log as a plan, im recording what i did and thats all it is

LM

there is no long term safety data, phase 2 and an ongoing phase 3 programme is what exists, from memory

no idea whether the heart rate settles for everyone, mine did and one log isnt data

triple agonist, GLP-1 and GIP and glucagon. the glucagon arm is the part with no long history

ok so GI was about the same as tirzepatide for me, the difference was how fast it arrived

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GG

anyone reconstituting 10 vials to 10 so the steps come out smaller

LM

i went up too fast, got a fortnight of nothing but nausea, and dropped back two steps

SS

the honest position is this has less human evidence behind it than anything else discussed here

VB

On this day 3 years ago this channel logged 78 messages.

JJ

phase 2 doses are published and theyre not far off what people here run, coincidence rather than plan

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IO

coming back to this phase 2 was still trending at the end which is why the phase 3 readout matters more than usual

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triple agonist meaning GLP-1, GIP and glucagon, have i got that right

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RS

blood pressure stayed flat for me while heart rate moved, which i didnt expect

is the glucagon arm what people mean by the energy expenditure thing
the purity spread across lots worries me more than the molecule does

BB

sorry to jump in did the phase 2 plateau or was it still moving at the end

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RS

i log resting heart rate every morning because of this and its the one number i actually watch
blood pressure stayed flat for me while heart rate moved, which i didnt expect

whats a sensible starting point, im seeing everything from 0.5 to 2

LM

research use only is on every vial and i treat it as exactly that, nobody here is prescribing

lost 48kg over 7 months at doses well under what the trials used

no long term data

buying this is a completely different risk conversation from the licensed compounds and that gets said too rarely

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held mine ages