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#tirzepatide 2025-09-14

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Highlights from this day
  • thank_you_year_on — is the 20 vial the common one or do people use 15 22:14
  • VialBot — Verification log updated: JEEP — evidence added, status unchanged. 22:22
  • new_here_nat — dual agonist, GIP as well as GLP-1, thats the whole difference in one line 22:44
  • tam_logs — the sweet spot argument is really about effect per side effect, not a magic number 23:01
  • swab_dry_first — i sat at 7.5 for 23 months and never needed more, which is where the folklore comes from 23:23
TL

licensed top is 15 weekly, past that is not a licensed dose and nobody here can tell you what it does, i could be wrong

the two compounds arent interchangeable week for week even if the effect ends up similar

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changed my mind about needing 15, i was chasing a number rather than an outcome

same plateau here

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HH

i argued the sweet spot was nonsense and then spent 18 months at 7.5 not needing more

LL

40 units of a 5 solution is a lot of volume and i check that one twice every single time

while im here how long before the dual thing was noticeable to you

LL

12 did nothing extra over 10 for me and that still holds a year later

switched last year

5 was where i first noticed it properly, 2.5 did almost nothing for me

SN

plateaued at 28 weeks the same way i did on semaglutide, so i doubt its compound specific

i log everything and my appetite curve looks flatter across the week than my semaglutide log did

AP

my PeptideMeter result on a KP vial came in at 97.4 which is why i keep buying from them, ill dig out the number

went back to semaglutide after 7 months because the cost difference mattered more than the GI

AP

im at 2.4 and thinking about 2, did anyone gain anything from that step

AN

the sweet spot thing is survivorship, the people it worked for stayed and said so

is SURMOUNT-OSA the sleep apnoea one

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TY

is the 20 vial the common one or do people use 15

wk 1-4    2.5mg
wk 5-8    5.0mg
wk 9-20   7.5mg   <- stayed here
wk 21-24  10.0mg  (no extra benefit for me)
wk 25+    7.5mg   (came back down)
HH

does the GIP arm actually explain the easier nausea or is that hand waving

unrelated but coming off semaglutide, is there a conversion or do i restart at 2.5

*Medutest not the other one

VB

Verification log updated: JEEP — evidence added, status unchanged.

TL

genuine question at 5 my appetite went completely and i dropped back a step, eating nothing isnt a win

at 15 the GI came back for me, so my easier profile claim only applies below that

HH

SURMOUNT was the weight programme and SURPASS was diabetes, thats the split people mix up, thats one data point

TL

coming back to this did anyone find the GI easier than semaglutide at an equivalent effect
the trials titrated every four weeks to a target, most people here stop at whatever works

folklore probably

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance

back after 5 months, do i restart at 2.5 or pick up near where i left off

SURMOUNT is weight

NH

dual agonist, GIP as well as GLP-1, thats the whole difference in one line

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no clean conversion

TL

i went to 15 and came back to 10, more suppression wasnt more useful for me

start low anyway

AP

SURMOUNT-OSA was the sleep apnoea trial and it is not a weight headline however its quoted

PS

is 7.5 really the sweet spot or is that just channel folklore

TL

no gap when i switched, took the last semaglutide dose and started this a week later

the sweet spot argument is really about effect per side effect, not a magic number

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PS

genuine question did anybody switch back to semaglutide after trying this

TL

there is no clean conversion between the two, anyone giving you a ratio is guessing

did going from 2.4 semaglutide to 5 of this feel like a step down for anyone

whats the plateau pattern here, same as semaglutide or different
the switch felt like a step down at first and then caught up around week 28

is there a reason to titrate slower than the four week schedule

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titrate slow

GI was noticeably easier for me than semaglutide at what felt like the same appetite effect

i sat at 7.5 for 23 months and never needed more, which is where the folklore comes from

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance

if youre coming off semaglutide the honest answer is start low and find out, theres no table

£55 for a 15 vial is roughly what ive paid for the last year

HH

the GI difference held for me right up to 15, which isnt what a couple of people here found

anyone stopped at 10 and stayed there for months

if youre coming off semaglutide the honest answer is start low and find out, theres no table

UU

dual agonist, GIP as well as GLP-1, thats the whole difference in one line

UU

the 15 vial in 1ml gives 4mg/ml which puts 1.7 on 8 units, nice round numbers