post the photos
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#vendor-verification 2026-01-06
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- quiet_head_qi — a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both 18:47
- evidence_or_not — nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes 18:58
- noct.titrate — follow up if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution 19:47
- batch_bandit — update on the earlier thing the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line 20:54
- slow.taper — somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log 21:29
a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
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if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes
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thats evidence
two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
not a recommendation
how many independent results does a supplier need
slightly off topic but has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation
refresh on evidence
revoked stays in the log
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update on the earlier thing how does a supplier get verification revoked
the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division
does a good result from Medutest outweigh a bad one from Janoshik
we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry
nothing gets deleted
is the verification log the same thing as a recommendation
a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all
follow up if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution
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verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
slightly off topic but what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine, for what its worth
we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
thats not evidence
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not
why is a referral link disqualifying rather than just ignored
has anyone ever offered to pay for verification
a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited
update from 13 months ago: WXT added evidence and the entry now reflects it
both numbers go in
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log it either way, from memory
the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now
blinded is better
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update on the earlier thing the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
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i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier
a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record
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blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
*PeptideMeter not the other one
pattern not one result
[edited]somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
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never for sale
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what happens to the log entry when a supplier improves
is a screenshot of a report ever acceptable
how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing
lot number or nothing
coming back after 24 months, has the standard changed
sorry to jump in blinded is better
while im here who decides, the mods or the room
do blinded submissions carry more weight than open ones
[edited]i have a result but i did not buy the lot myself, does that count
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*that should say weekly
thin evidence